DeKalb County School District - Work Session And Business Meeting (09/09/2013) 
1:55
Stan Jester: 
Event is live. The board meetings are being broadcast so I'm leaving the central office and going to watch from home.
Monday September 9, 2013 1:55 Stan Jester
2:10
[Comment From PaulaPaula: ] 
Live feed is blocked here at my office. Has the meeting started?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:10 Paula
2:10
Nancy Jester: 
The meeting just started.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:10 Nancy Jester
2:12
Nancy Jester: 
The Financial Report is now being presented.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:12 Nancy Jester
2:25
[Comment From the mom1the mom1: ] 
Do you think Marshall really believes that legal fees were zero for July? He isn't that clueless is he?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:25 the mom1
2:25
Nancy Jester: 
Mom 1 - I was just writing a comment to that effect.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:25 Nancy Jester
2:26
Nancy Jester: 
I'm surprised no one has asked "the big question" yet about the budget. Let's see if they find it.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:26 Nancy Jester
2:26
[Comment From the mom1the mom1: ] 
Does he think Sutherland worked for free at the July meeting? ;)
Monday September 9, 2013 2:26 the mom1
2:31
[Comment From PaulaPaula: ] 
The Vendor Report indicates Sutherland was paid over $200,000 - is that report not for July billing period?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:31 Paula
2:31
[Comment From the mom1the mom1: ] 
Guess Sutherland didn't work for free after all in July. A quarter million dollar bill that showed on the vendors spend but not the actual budget? Or were they classifying Sutherland's fees in another place.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:31 the mom1
2:31
[Comment From the mom1the mom1: ] 
Go Thad Mayfield!
Monday September 9, 2013 2:31 the mom1
2:32
Stan Jester: 
OK. I'm back from the central office. I turned on avatars.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:32 Stan Jester
2:38
Stan Jester: 
Mr. Coleman just asked where the vendor expenses were reflected in the financial report. Mr. Bell said he didn't know. That's $32M.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:38 Stan Jester
2:38
Stan Jester: 
Did I just hear that correctly?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:38 Stan Jester
2:39
[Comment From PaulaPaula: ] 
OMG, he doesn't know????
Monday September 9, 2013 2:39 Paula
2:39
[Comment From the mom1the mom1: ] 
Yep
Monday September 9, 2013 2:39 the mom1
2:40
Stan Jester: 
I just joined ... has anybody said anything about Dr. Bell reverting back to cash accounting?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:40 Stan Jester
2:42
[Comment From the mom1the mom1: ] 
I missed most of his report. Sorry.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:42 the mom1
2:43
Stan Jester: 
We have "accrued" A LOT more expenses than what is shown ... $750K. You'll notice Perrone had DeKalb Schools on modified accrual accounting and we had accrued $4M in expenses in July ... not $750K ... that's ludicrous.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:43 Stan Jester
2:45
Stan Jester: 
Record enrollment?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:45 Stan Jester
2:45
Stan Jester: 
Budget Trick #1
Monday September 9, 2013 2:45 Stan Jester
2:46
Nancy Jester: 
OK...I'm back from picking up kids at the bus stop. Thanks for moderating Stan!
Monday September 9, 2013 2:46 Nancy Jester
2:46
[Comment From PaulaPaula: ] 
The last I heard many schools had not removed "no shows" from their rosters.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:46 Paula
2:47
Nancy Jester: 
During the financial report did anyone note the $13.4 million in "other revenue"?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:47 Nancy Jester
2:48
the mom1: 
Not that I heard, but I missed most of his report and some Q and A.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:48 the mom1
2:48
Stan Jester: 
In 2006 DeKalb Schools had 99,544 students that qualified for QBE funding. We've been decreasing 500 - 1000 students every year since then. We may have had a bump from last year, but they are stretching by a couple thousand. The real count will be released in October.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:48 Stan Jester
2:51
the mom1: 
Right. He made up the record thing.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:51 the mom1
2:53
Paula: 
FTE Day is October 1st. Am I correct in that schools have to count actual bodies?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:53 Paula
2:54
the mom1: 
Yes
Monday September 9, 2013 2:54 the mom1
2:56
Stan Jester: 
FTE counting: There are 6 different periods in the day and each student has to be put into one of 19 categories. Each category is funded at a different rate.
Monday September 9, 2013 2:56 Stan Jester
2:58
the mom1: 
How can you teach teachers to differentiate if you can't say it?
Monday September 9, 2013 2:58 the mom1
3:01
the mom1: 
Nancy, what are the Board's rules about placing things on consent agenda? It takes more than one Board Member to pull it off?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:01 the mom1
3:01
Nancy Jester: 
Going back for just a minute to the financial report: Under local revenue sources we find a line for "other" revenues listed as $13.5 million (budget). At the end of year 2012, we had "actual" "other" revenues of $1.3 million and in 2011 that revenue source "actual" was $2.4 million. Why do we now anticipate and budget $13.5 million? No one asked about this. I call that plugging the budget or using a "balancing item" that is out of proportion.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:01 Nancy Jester
3:02
the mom1: 
Nancy, Does it have to do with the one time bump for the birthday tax?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:02 the mom1
3:03
Nancy Jester: 
Mom1: If a board member wanted an item pulled for a separate vote, it was a courtesy. You told the board chair and it was pulled for separate consideration and vote. I don't know what rules they are currently using regarding the consent agenda now.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:03 Nancy Jester
3:05
Nancy Jester: 
Mom1: Birthday tax.... hmmm... well, the detail doesn't say anything about that tax. It says (Rent, Fingerprinting/Background Checks, Planetarium Proceeds, Lost Books).
Monday September 9, 2013 3:05 Nancy Jester
3:07
the mom1: 
Hmmm.. Michael Erwin wanted to pull something and Johnson said since he was the only one, it would remain on consent agenda. Ugh.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:07 the mom1
3:08
Paula: 
Any idea what Erwin wanted pulled?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:08 Paula
3:08
Nancy Jester: 
My thought is that the birthday tax is a "property tax" so it should be in that line. But...since no one asked.....
Monday September 9, 2013 3:08 Nancy Jester
3:11
the mom1: 
Nancy, I could be wrong. Paula, the online teacher training stuff. he was unimpressed with usage levels.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:11 the mom1
3:11
[Comment From DeKalbInsideOutDeKalbInsideOut: ] 
Coleman doesn't know how discovery works?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:11 DeKalbInsideOut
3:11
the mom1: 
Item number 6
Monday September 9, 2013 3:11 the mom1
3:13
Nancy Jester: 
If we had board members that were familiar with the problems within the gifted program and the ID of students, we could have a more robust conversation about this topic. It was an area that I found was not properly understood when I was on the board. In particular the the finance department, at that time, did not understand that some schools "earned" zero gifted "points" but had close to 100 students receiving gifted services. This disconnect never earned their attention.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:13 Nancy Jester
3:15
Stan Jester: 
I'm very excited about Tapestry.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:15 Stan Jester
3:18
Stan Jester: 
Mr. Mayfield, Charter Schools can not pick their students.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:18 Stan Jester
3:18
the mom1: 
No, Tapestry can only estimate who their students will be.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:18 the mom1
3:19
Nancy Jester: 
So happy for Tapestry! The parents and citizens who have worked on this charter are amazing.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:19 Nancy Jester
3:19
Stan Jester: 
Using the inclusion model, the student to teacher ratio will be very low. A number of non IEP students may apply to go there.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:19 Stan Jester
3:20
the mom1: 
it is a lottery admissions. Stan, it will be interesting to see. I know some of the founders have children who are more moderately impacted and it will be interesting to see how successful this model can be. I am thrilled for them and hope they can make it work.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:20 the mom1
3:21
the mom1: 
Staff knows just enough to be dangerous and is doing a really crummy job answering questions. And multi-age groups are a common tool in special ed
Monday September 9, 2013 3:21 the mom1
3:22
Stan Jester: 
Hear, hear! I look forward to Tapestry opening many more charters! Dr. Morley doesn't seem to share our enthusiasm.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:22 Stan Jester
3:23
Paula: 
I have a co-worker with an autistic daughter in DCSS MS. She is just hoping upon hope she can get her daughter into this school.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:23 Paula
3:23
Nancy Jester: 
Well, Dr. Morley - who is holding DeKalb accountable for meeting the needs of all the students in DeKalb? What say you about the job DCSS has done so far?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:23 Nancy Jester
3:23
Paula: 
Joyce Morley has been a disaster.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:23 Paula
3:23
the mom1: 
Ugh. Thompson doesn't understand how charter lotteries work.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:23 the mom1
3:25
[Comment From DeKalbInsideOutDeKalbInsideOut: ] 
Dr. Morley appeals to certain part of DeKalb.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:25 DeKalbInsideOut
3:26
the mom1: 
She needs to stop. She knows nothing.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:26 the mom1
3:26
the mom1: 
This is painful.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:26 the mom1
3:28
the mom1: 
I think that I miss Donna Edler.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:28 the mom1
3:29
Stan Jester: 
Dr. Morley isn't familiar with the charter idea. The parents decide who is qualified. If you don't think the staff is qualified, then don't go.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:29 Stan Jester
3:29
Nancy Jester: 
We don't have any guarantees in our system now. We do have evidence that DCSS is particularly poor in meeting the needs of our students. The hand wringing about how DCSS is going to hold Tapestry (or any other charter) accountable is ironic. Please spend this much time holding our low performing principals and administrators accountable. They seem to get a pass in perpetuity.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:29 Nancy Jester
3:30
Stan Jester: 
Obviously, parents don't decide what the qualifications are ... they decide with their feet.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:30 Stan Jester
3:31
the mom1: 
I just tweeted her what you said Stan. Parents can choose to leave a charter, can't choose to leave neighborhood schools with any ease. She is horrible.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:31 the mom1
3:31
the mom1: 
Make it stop.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:31 the mom1
3:31
DeKalbInsideOut: 
This is a precursor to the Druid Hills Charter Cluster discussion. Morley is going to make these same arguments.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:31 DeKalbInsideOut
3:32
the mom1: 
Morley is clearly against DHCC. That is clear
Monday September 9, 2013 3:32 the mom1
3:33
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Can somebody give Coleman a lesson on how schools work?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:33 DeKalbInsideOut
3:36
[Comment From TruthseekerTruthseeker: ] 
Right on Ms. Jester. It is clear that our board does not understand what a charter school is. It does appear that even though they do not know, a certain part of the county will oppose them.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:36 Truthseeker
3:36
[Comment From TheDealTheDeal: ] 
Can someone give this entire board a lesson on how schools work?
Monday September 9, 2013 3:36 TheDeal
3:36
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
I'm with you mom1. Make it stop. Morley is just horrible. Coleman doesn't add anything.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:36 Just Jan
3:39
Paula: 
Well, John Evans had an uninformed diatribe during last month's public comments. There seem to be a lot of people with preconceived ideas and wrong information about Charter Schools.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:39 Paula
3:39
Nancy Jester: 
If any of the board members need the class size documents they can go to my website: http://nancyjester.com/importantandfrequentlyrequested.aspx
Monday September 9, 2013 3:39 Nancy Jester
3:39
the mom1: 
Because of lottery, they could end up with 90 percent special ed or 901 percent regular ed. No way to really get to the "nut" of this question. What a waste of time.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:39 the mom1
3:40
the mom1: 
take good notes, gotta do a middle school run!
Monday September 9, 2013 3:40 the mom1
3:40
Nancy Jester: 
See you later Mom1!
Monday September 9, 2013 3:40 Nancy Jester
3:41
Nancy Jester: 
Glad to see Mr. Orson supportive of this charter. He didn't support the charter amendment. Glad he has seen the light.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:41 Nancy Jester
3:45
Stan Jester: 
Mr. Orson is currently providing an extended pro charter / Druid Hills Charter cluster speech.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:45 Stan Jester
3:46
[Comment From TruthseekerTruthseeker: ] 
Orson must support Druid Hills charter cluster or he is so replaced in the next election.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:46 Truthseeker
3:46
[Comment From DeKalb DoyenneDeKalb Doyenne: ] 
The amount of ignorance displayed by this board is stunning. Clearly Morley (The Luv Doctor) dislikes children. The length of this discussion about a new charter school for children on autism spectrum compared to the length of the discussion regarding buying cars for administrators who never had cars before is ridiculous!
Monday September 9, 2013 3:46 DeKalb Doyenne
3:48
Nancy Jester: 
DeKalb Doyenne - Yes! But buying cars for administrators doesn't present an existential threat to useless boards and administrators. Charter schools have the potential to highlight the poor job they've done to date.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:48 Nancy Jester
3:49
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Dr. Morley is probably seething right about now.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:49 DeKalbInsideOut
3:50
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
DeKalb Inside Out I was just thinking that.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:50 Just Jan
3:51
Nancy Jester: 
I see Zepora Roberts is at the meeting.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:51 Nancy Jester
3:51
Paula: 
I just have a feeling Zepora is going to run again for BOE.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:51 Paula
3:52
[Comment From TruthseekerTruthseeker: ] 
I think we can correctly surmise how a vote on the DHCC cluster will go. Only 3 for sure votes on that charter. Morely and ignorance always seem to control DeKalb.
Monday September 9, 2013 3:52 Truthseeker
3:55
DeKalbInsideOut: 
you're killing me coleman!
Monday September 9, 2013 3:55 DeKalbInsideOut
4:02
DeKalbInsideOut: 
And Dr. Morley put the gloves on ... let's get ready to rumble
Monday September 9, 2013 4:02 DeKalbInsideOut
4:04
[Comment From DeKalb DoyenneDeKalb Doyenne: ] 
Morley clearly does not understand the needs of autistic children. Yes, there are federal funds, but those all go to the over-paid, under-qualified friends-and-family.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:04 DeKalb Doyenne
4:06
Stan Jester: 
Dr. Morley want to know why the current DeKalb Schools system can't provide the services that communities need without going to a charter.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:06 Stan Jester
4:06
Nancy Jester: 
Mr. Mayfield is wrong - the board is being asked to approve. The language in the board agenda item is "It is requested that the Board of Education approve the charter petition for the Tapestry Public Charter School, Inc. for the proposed five year charter term."
So the staff had brought them this with a recommendation to approve. Mr. Mayfield is making the suggestion that they table this against the recommendation of staff. Interesting. Sad.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:06 Nancy Jester
4:08
[Comment From CuriousCurious: ] 
Did they take apart the other charters like this? Say, did they take apart the Leadership Academy (a charter housed at New Birth, a church that our board chair, Melvin Johnson is a leader and negotiated the deal)... or say, the Destiny Academy? Globe? Etc? Why the microscope on this one?
Monday September 9, 2013 4:08 Curious
4:09
Stan Jester: 
Curious, It would appear that everybody is posturing in anticipation of the Druid Hills Charter Cluster vote. What are your thoughts?
Monday September 9, 2013 4:09 Stan Jester
4:09
Truthseeker: 
It appears that Mayfield may not have studied his paperwork. Tapestry is one of the best ideas of all.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:09 Truthseeker
4:09
Nancy Jester: 
Curious,
As it would seem, some charters are "more equal" than others. Sad that our most vulnerable children are somehow not worthy of their immediate attention here.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:09 Nancy Jester
4:11
Truthseeker: 
At curious. Some previous board members always voted against Destiny, but were outvoted. They were always over budget.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:11 Truthseeker
4:12
[Comment From CuriousCurious: ] 
Also, havent' they already wasted too much time? They aren't even sure if they have any time. They have no idea of the schedule. They are holding up a whole school of students. They say they're at 80 days, and they have 90 and so they have time. Ironically, Melvin is asking the board to write down their concerns about this charter! REALLY? Seriously? He says this when he was the one who negotiated a $10,000 a month rental agreement for Leadership to pay New Birth and ran it under the radar -- with no board concerns brought up at the time?!!! What a hypocrite...
Monday September 9, 2013 4:12 Curious
4:13
Truthseeker: 
AMEN. Curious
Monday September 9, 2013 4:13 Truthseeker
4:14
Stan Jester: 
WOW ... they're going to delay the Tapestry approval vote! I'm incredulous!
Monday September 9, 2013 4:14 Stan Jester
4:14
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
Zepora "I'm going to slug you" Roberts?
Monday September 9, 2013 4:14 John
4:14
Nancy Jester: 
That very one.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:14 Nancy Jester
4:14
Nancy Jester: 
Let's see how long this item takes! Money for administrators!
Monday September 9, 2013 4:14 Nancy Jester
4:15
Stan Jester: 
OK. The discussion is over. They are going to make the Tapestry approval vote an action item while they figure out if they can push the vote back.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:15 Stan Jester
4:16
Nancy Jester: 
Stan - to be clear. They have removed it from the consent agenda. They seem to want to delay the decision. If they vote on this tonight, it is not clear if it will be approved pursuant to the recommendation.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:16 Nancy Jester
4:24
Nancy Jester: 
Any predictions about this item? Are we going to keep paying for administrators to get PhD's?
Monday September 9, 2013 4:24 Nancy Jester
4:25
Truthseeker: 
Let's buy them cars too. Oh we already did.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:25 Truthseeker
4:26
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
I bet John Coleman doesn't ask for this to be removed from the agenda.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:26 Just Jan
4:28
the mom1: 
Did they leave Tapestry on the consent agenda? Sorry just getting back from carpool
Monday September 9, 2013 4:28 the mom1
4:28
Nancy Jester: 
Nope. They took out Tapestry. They want to delay a decision altogether.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:28 Nancy Jester
4:28
Stan Jester: 
RT3 funds to pay for administrator PhD's will be an action item and discussed at the business meeting.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:28 Stan Jester
4:29
the mom1: 
Will they vote on it tonight? Wow.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:29 the mom1
4:30
the mom1: 
Thank you Michael Erwin for at least asking math scores.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:30 the mom1
4:31
Stan Jester: 
If the comments are falling off the edge and you can't see the entire comment, reload the web page. Please let me know if anybody is still having that problem.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:31 Stan Jester
4:31
the mom1: 
Just to clarify, what is the plan for Tapestry. Is it an action item for tonight? or removed all together.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:31 the mom1
4:34
Nancy Jester: 
It is an action item separate from the consent agenda. However, the board seemed to want to delay and not vote at all on this pending changes some of them want to make to the charter. They are going to determine if they can delay the vote. It seemed like if they can, they will delay it and remove it all together. Right now, the status is the item is a separate agenda item.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:34 Nancy Jester
4:35
Stan Jester: 
Our Interim Superintendent wants a holistic approach. That doesn't sound cheap or teacher-centric.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:35 Stan Jester
4:40
[Comment From CuriousCurious: ] 
So, Thurmond is saying the charters cost more! Certainly that is true with Destiny. And they do keep subsidizing Leadership. But not so much for the others. Huh. How about magnets? DSA? Kittredge? How about those per pupil costs? They are quick to cut the charters, but not the magnets or the science center special programs, etc... Fair is fair.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:40 Curious
4:42
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
Is it just me or did Thurmond seem like he just realized that there are many factors that hinder students? Is he going to come down and tell us about this revelation and give us his prescription? He's brought back parent centers.
Monday September 9, 2013 4:42 Just Jan
4:58
Curious: 
Everything old is new again!!
Monday September 9, 2013 4:58 Curious
4:58
Truthseeker: 
How much money is Fernbank Science center getting from this years budget. That always used to be a big number?
Monday September 9, 2013 4:58 Truthseeker
4:59
Stan Jester: 
The first half of the work session was fascinating. I'm getting dinner for the kids. We'll be back for public comment and the Business Meeting. I'll keep this open during the break ...
Monday September 9, 2013 4:59 Stan Jester
5:11
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
Melvin Johnson is such a dumb-bell; he really is! Go, Zepora - knock MJ out!
Monday September 9, 2013 5:11 Guest
5:11
[Comment From Concerned CitizenConcerned Citizen: ] 
Holistic approach, huh? Ugh.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:11 Concerned Citizen
5:16
Curious: 
Fernbank Science Center costs annually $4,000,000+ (also just got an increase in their budget) for 20 admin and support personnel for 20 science teachers who are almost all in the schools.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:16 Curious
5:22
Curious: 
From the budget FERNBANK SCIENCE CENTER.xls 4,358,373 4,292,518 2,546,217 2,743,171
Monday September 9, 2013 5:22 Curious
5:24
Curious: 
That's $4.3 million in 2011, $4.3 in 2012, then cut to $2.5 in 2013 and bumped up to $2.7 in 2014 (Thurmond's budget).
Monday September 9, 2013 5:24 Curious
5:25
Curious: 
There's an additioanl $16,400 for the Fernbank Science media library.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:25 Curious
5:31
[Comment From mommyonlinemommyonline: ] 
plz. don't encourage that woman.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:31 mommyonline
5:31
[Comment From PaulaPaula: ] 
For those of us who supporting the legislation to allow the creation of separate school districts, well, the actions and inactions DCSS and its BOE is just the gift that keeps on giving. They keep giving us more and more ammunition.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:31 Paula
5:55
Stan Jester: 
Public comments are starting.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:55 Stan Jester
5:57
Stan Jester: 
New public comment rules. If you're with a group, you need to say what group and only one person from that group is allowed to speak. I don't recall this new policy being voted on.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:57 Stan Jester
5:58
Stan Jester: 
David Schutten is up to bat.
Monday September 9, 2013 5:58 Stan Jester
6:00
Stan Jester: 
David Schutten is saying that Druid Hills Charter Cluster organizers didn't reach out to the minorities. He goes on to say how he doesn't like who was able to vote.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:00 Stan Jester
6:03
Stan Jester: 
Another person opposing Druid Hill Charter Cluster. She doesn't like the fact that the board picks it's own successors. It allegedly doesn't have widespread support. Some people had 3 votes while some others did not. The population is diverse but the voters were not. She has many grievances with this charter and asks the board to reject it.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:03 Stan Jester
6:03
[Comment From Concerned CitizenConcerned Citizen: ] 
Stan, I can't see the meeting; I can see the comments on Nancy's blog. any suggestions?
Monday September 9, 2013 6:03 Concerned Citizen
6:04
Stan Jester: 
Concerned Citizen, click on this link ...
http://www.ecstreams.com/DekalbSchools/DekalbSchoolsLive.asx

I believe a number of people with Macs are having problems.

Monday September 9, 2013 6:04 Stan Jester
6:06
Stan Jester: 
Ruth is speaking and also opposes the Druid Hills Charter Cluster. She is reiterating the previous speaker's sentiments. Dump the boiler plate cluster, get better participation, etc ...
Monday September 9, 2013 6:06 Stan Jester
6:09
Stan Jester: 

Orthea is speaking and has a child with disabilities within the Druid Hills Charter Cluster area. She is concerned with the inclusion of her son. The proposal does not, allegedly, allow for the continuation of the services he receives. This cluster, she goes on to say, would reduce the services he gets under his IEP. She is asking the board to deny this proposal when it comes up.

Monday September 9, 2013 6:09 Stan Jester
6:11
Nancy Jester: 
Curious that the opposition to the DHCC is out in force tonight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see DHCC's application being considered tonight?
Monday September 9, 2013 6:11 Nancy Jester
6:12
Stan Jester: 
Ms Brown is next and is concerned with nepotism. She has an anti Druid Hills Charter Cluster pin. She is also disappointed that the board is so anxious to approve everything in front of them. She was active in getting the old board removed.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:12 Stan Jester
6:14
Stan Jester: 

It's a packed house at the board meeting today.

Monday September 9, 2013 6:14 Stan Jester
6:18
Stan Jester: 
Matt Lewis is up. As you know he's a big voice in leading the Druid Hills Charter Cluster effort. He is saying we need decisions at the schoolhouse level. A community that wants to be responsible for educating their children. A community that believes in taking care in all of its schools and children.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:18 Stan Jester
6:21
[Comment From Concerned CitizenConcerned Citizen: ] 
She's all over the board, isn't she? Why is she concerned about nepotism but doesn't address it! Loard..
Monday September 9, 2013 6:21 Concerned Citizen
6:21
Stan Jester: 
Kathy Mathers, member of the governing board should the cluster be approved. Objective research says that setup like this charter is more likely to get parent involvement, adopt and tailor policies to their children's needs, etc ... The flexibility would result in innovation and would be available to everybody in the cluster.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:21 Stan Jester
6:24
[Comment From Concerned CitizenConcerned Citizen: ] 
I hope one of them can answer the special needs parents and hopefully say the children are included! Otherwise, problems!!
Monday September 9, 2013 6:24 Concerned Citizen
6:24
Stan Jester: 
Parent of a couple of children in what would be the new cluster. This community wants to govern themselves. Hold them accountable. If they don't meet the high standards then they will revert back to the DeKalb Schools board. This is not a vote on whether you like charter schools. This is a vote on whether this cluster is better for the community or not.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:24 Stan Jester
6:28
Stan Jester: 
Robert Thorp, recent principal and a would be governing board member of the Druid Hills Charter Cluster. He's seen instructional changes that don't value teachers. Springboard and Success For All emphasizes the program and not the process. STEM, IB and Montessori will be the processes with this cluster. DeKalb Schools has a one size fits all. This community realizes that is not the case.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:28 Stan Jester
6:31
Stan Jester: 
Theresa Bennet, parent and homeschooler. This cluster is a ray of hope. All of the parents want the same thing, a different way to educate our children than what we are doing now. I am the secretary for the cluster petitioning group. We engaged everybody and stayed late to answer everbody's question. We want our kids educated in a different way. For the kids of our county, look favorably on this petition.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:31 Stan Jester
6:34
Stan Jester: 
Alexander, PTSA president, is here to talk about school uniformity. 15 students out of 1000 don't want to participate. It's causing a disturbance. Please backup the school council and schoolhouse administration.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:34 Stan Jester
6:36
Concerned Citizen: 
Suspend them until their parents comply!
Monday September 9, 2013 6:36 Concerned Citizen
6:36
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
You are tough Concerned Citizen. I like that.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:36 Just Jan
6:37
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Discipline is a big issue in just about every school
Monday September 9, 2013 6:37 DeKalbInsideOut
6:37
Stan Jester: 
Darrel Fund, parent of 2 children in DeKalb Schools. One of them is autistic. We need more involvement in the special needs program. These children are high maintenance and need your help.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:37 Stan Jester
6:40
Stan Jester: 

Next gentlemen speaking is a would be board member of the Druid Hills Charter Cluster. He is zoned for Avondale, but sends his kids to private school. There are not enough open slots for the current schools of choice. The Druid Hills Charter Cluster can serve all the children like the few charters we have now. A blind lottery for a few spots is not the best way to educate our children.

Monday September 9, 2013 6:40 Stan Jester
6:42
Stan Jester: 
Mother of two daughters that attend Briar Vista. She helped write the petition. The Briar Vista budget was cut and it caused chaos. In the past, the various schools in the cluster were rivals. We came together as a community to write this petition. Grant us this petition.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:42 Stan Jester
6:43
Concerned Citizen: 
Discipline is a problem because administrators won't touch it! Fear of upper admin's disapproval. No support for those few admin who dare to discipline, so sad.... you have to be soooo tough.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:43 Concerned Citizen
6:45
Stan Jester: 
Lance Hammond, with the DeKalb NAACP. Our first and most important objective is to protect the educational rights of our children. We don't believe the minorities were represented with this vote and petition. This cluster will resegregate our schools. The DeKalb NAACP asks you to deny this petition.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:45 Stan Jester
6:47
Stan Jester: 
Michelle Pencova, we must be innovative even if there is a perceived loss of power. It empowers the schoolhouse. While my children wouldn't attend the cluster, I support this petition. Work through the documents and discuss it with the petitioners.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:47 Stan Jester
6:48
Stan Jester: 
Jay Cunningham is speaking ... interesting
Monday September 9, 2013 6:48 Stan Jester
6:49
Concerned Citizen: 
There was plenty of time for the NAACP to question and comment, but as usual, they wait until they can act ugly!
Monday September 9, 2013 6:49 Concerned Citizen
6:50
[Comment From curiouscurious: ] 
Yuck.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:50 curious
6:51
Stan Jester: 
Jay Cunningham is saying that education is the economic drive of our county. The Druid Hills Charter Cluster is a petition for a new school system. There is nothing unique about this contract. If you approve this cluster, we're going to get 17 more clusters. Minorities make up a majority of the cluster but had very little representation in the vote. Do not grant this petition.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:51 Stan Jester
6:52
Concerned Citizen: 
17 more clusters will be good! It's the only way to avoid these horrible administrators!
Monday September 9, 2013 6:52 Concerned Citizen
6:55
Concerned Citizen: 
Why did minorities not have enough representation? They didn't show up!
Monday September 9, 2013 6:55 Concerned Citizen
6:55
DeKalbInsideOut: 
We're going to get 17 new cities in DeKalb. We are desperate.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:55 DeKalbInsideOut
6:55
Stan Jester: 
Evette Hall, has the vote no on the Druid Hills Charter Cluster pin. She is happy and doing well at Columbia High School. Thank you Brantley for the 400+ new computers. Soaring to new heights is our motto.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:55 Stan Jester
6:56
Concerned Citizen: 
What is wrong with her? What about Brantley? He's that worst!
Monday September 9, 2013 6:56 Concerned Citizen
6:57
[Comment From Dunwoody MomDunwoody Mom: ] 
What's the problem with 17 more clusters? It's painfully obvious status quo is not working...
Monday September 9, 2013 6:57 Dunwoody Mom
6:57
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Many minorities are saying they either didn't know about the vote or couldn't get to the high school. The charter petitioners followed the law, but the law does not accommodate minorities and the lower economic population.
Monday September 9, 2013 6:57 DeKalbInsideOut
6:59
Stan Jester: 

Looks like Jay will be running for his board seat. That speech was directed at his constiuency. They do not want cities or clusters to break off.

Monday September 9, 2013 6:59 Stan Jester
6:59
[Comment From InlineInline: ] 
Amazing the NAACP finally speaks up for the children...why couldn't they have done it before now. Do they only speak about things when it seems to be about voters rights?
Monday September 9, 2013 6:59 Inline
7:01
Stan Jester: 
The NAACP claims to be speaking for the children. I believe they were speaking for control of power and money at DeKalb Schools. It's sad they use the children as pawns.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:01 Stan Jester
7:02
Concerned Citizen: 
Yes, thanks DeKalbinsideOut, I do, believe me, more than you'll ever know; however,it's on the minorities to stay on top if they want to know to be successful in this world. Less talk, more action!
Monday September 9, 2013 7:02 Concerned Citizen
7:05
Concerned Citizen: 
Cunningham is the jerk of the year and a felon with a lot of friends. I pray to God that he will never again be on the board.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:05 Concerned Citizen
7:06
Concerned Citizen: 
And why does Cunningham not want cities and clusters to break off? It's easy! Who will pay for the schools?
Monday September 9, 2013 7:06 Concerned Citizen
7:08
DeKalbInsideOut: 
South DeKalb believes the affluent areas are going to form their own cities and clusters and take their money with them.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:08 DeKalbInsideOut
7:09
Stan Jester: 
If you're just now tuning in, the first half of the Work Session was fascinating. A number of items were not placed on the consent agenda so they can be discussed further.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:09 Stan Jester
7:11
DeKalb Doyenne: 
I read the voting information for the Druid Hills cluster and there was plenty of time and opportunity for everyone who wanted to vote to vote.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:11 DeKalb Doyenne
7:14
DeKalbInsideOut: 
The cluster is going to have a tough time on the merits of the petition itself. A board that selects its own successors is not going to go over very well.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:14 DeKalbInsideOut
7:14
curious: 
And the woman -- I believe the second speaker -- who said she was a taxpayer but didn't get to vote hadn't read the law; the law gives only parents of students in the cluster the right to vote, not the taxpayers in the cluster.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:14 curious
7:15
curious: 
I, too, think it's dicey whether the board will approve the cluster petition. The law establishes no criteria for voting on the petition, and there's no right to appeal, I think.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:15 curious
7:15
Concerned Citizen: 
Yes, it's inevitable, and all of the terrible people who have been running DeKalb have had plenty of time to foresee this loss of revenue.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:15 Concerned Citizen
7:15
DeKalbInsideOut: 
The cluster petitioners may have followed the letter of the law, but the appearance of exclusion of the minorities will be a rallying cry.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:15 DeKalbInsideOut
7:16
Stan Jester: 
It's not exactly a loss in revenue. The Charter Hills Druid Cluster just wants to control the money that would otherwise go to them anyway.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:16 Stan Jester
7:17
Concerned Citizen: 
Right! But with the corruption, Stan, it's a loss in revenue. Sorry, I hate to disagree with you.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:17 Concerned Citizen
7:19
Truthseeker: 
The error DHCC made was that ALL the taxpayers money would be used not just those that had children in the cluster. It made them look exclusive and not inclusive. Their charter will still do better than the school system.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:19 Truthseeker
7:20
Stan Jester: 
I'm saying that the Druid Hills Charter Cluster is not going to take everybody's money and keep it for themselves. The Cluster doesn't mean less money for the other schools outside the cluster.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:20 Stan Jester
7:21
Truthseeker: 
You are right Mr. Jester, but everyones tax money in the district will be used even though they had no vote.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:21 Truthseeker
7:23
Stan Jester: 
Truthseeker, correct. But that was how the law was written. They had no choice. South DeKalb should blame their state senators and representatives and not paint the cluster petitioners as exclusionists.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:23 Stan Jester
7:25
[Comment From TheDealTheDeal: ] 
The rallying cry for those who are opposed to the charter cluster was that it is an attempt to resegregate. NAACP and Jay Cunningham at the meeting spreading this message.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:25 TheDeal
7:26
Truthseeker: 
@ the deal. You have it right.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:26 Truthseeker
7:26
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
It's always gotta be about race...I've heard nothing against this cluster that has anything to do with student achievement - I'm so tired of the race card!
Monday September 9, 2013 7:26 Dunwoody Supermom
7:27
Nancy Jester: 
So, is Tapestry going to be a casualty in the anti-Druid Hills Charter Cluster movement? DHCC isn't even up tonight. Tapestry is and it's sad to see the board waffle on this. Even the staff has brought this to the board recommending approval.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:27 Nancy Jester
7:28
Truthseeker: 
Tapestry is the best cluster idea I have seen in a long time.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:28 Truthseeker
7:29
TheDeal: 
Tapestry was a casualty of the public speaking comments time, but that shouldn't carry over to this meeting.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:29 TheDeal
7:31
DeKalbInsideOut: 
The work session didn't look favorably on the Tapestry Charter. It is not part of the consent agenda and will be discussed further as an action item.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:31 DeKalbInsideOut
7:31
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
I agree, Nancy! Tapestry is such a great concept, and it's a shame that all of this attention is being paid to fighting the DHCC, something not even being discussed by the Board tonight.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:31 Dunwoody Supermom
7:31
[Comment From Dunwoody MomDunwoody Mom: ] 
The BOE should approve Tapestry because it's the right thing to do. But, just imagine the PR nightmare of rejecting a charter school for autistic children.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:31 Dunwoody Mom
7:33
TheDeal: 
The board's primary concern with Tapestry seemed to be that DCSD should be serving these students anyway (DUH).
Monday September 9, 2013 7:33 TheDeal
7:35
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
I can assure you, DCSD is falling WAY short of serving these students in the way that they deserve. Pool these students together, pool the resources where the students are, you have more students benefiting from more of the resources that they so desperately need...and deserve.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:35 Dunwoody Supermom
7:38
TheDeal: 
No joke. There are no charter schools in school districts that serve their students, parents, and teachers well.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:38 TheDeal
7:39
Nancy Jester: 
I was disappointed that the board seemed hopeful that they could delay a vote on Tapestry. That seemed the goal of those pulling this off the consent agenda. They were looking for clarity between the meetings to be able to remove it entirely if possible. It's shameful that some of our most vulnerable children and the parents and community that support them are being sacrificed for the sake of a political philosophy. I'd rather take on some uncertainty and risk than the failure these students experience in daily DCSS.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:39 Nancy Jester
7:41
Stan Jester: 
TheDeal ... it's much more difficult to have a successful charter school in a successful school district. But, that's the beauty of charter schools. If a group of people think they can do an even better job, they are welcome to try. That was the debate in Cherokee County.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:41 Stan Jester
7:43
TheDeal: 
I couldn't agree more. Charters don't propose themselves. The need for them arises out of a deficiency in some area within a school district. DeKalb, at this point, could have 200 charters with the # of challenges we have in this system.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:43 TheDeal
7:45
DeKalbInsideOut: 
That was Jay's point. If the Druid Hills Charter Cluster goes through there will be 10+ charter cluster petitions right around the corner.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:45 DeKalbInsideOut
7:45
[Comment From ArghArgh: ] 
@Dunwoody Supermom how can you ASSURE that these students are not being served. My son is autistic and has made great strides under the services of DSCD! his teachers are well-trained and are consistently innovative in their techniques. I wish everyone would stop with the generalities!!
Monday September 9, 2013 7:45 Argh
7:45
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
When was the last time the Board made a bold and emphatic decision in favor of its students? Seems like they don't know how to do anything besides obfuscate, waffle, and delay.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:45 John
7:45
Nancy Jester: 
Amen John!
Monday September 9, 2013 7:45 Nancy Jester
7:47
[Comment From JohnJohn: ] 
I don't think Board members have bad intentions. Just that they seemed scared to make a bad or wrong decision so they stick to the comfort of status quo and minor decisions.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:47 John
7:48
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Argh, you have been blessed with incredible teachers. I have worked with those teachers within DCSS with the special needs kids, so I do have first hand knowledge of what I speak of...I apologize for the generalization, though.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:48 Dunwoody Supermom
7:48
Nancy Jester: 
John, being on the DeKalb Board of Education is not for the timid.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:48 Nancy Jester
7:49
Don McChesney: 
Amen to that Ms. Jester.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:49 Don McChesney
7:51
The Deal: 
Tyson is a drain on our system in every way possible.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:51 The Deal
7:52
John: 
My thanks and admiration to Ms. Jester and Mr. McChesney for their attempts to be transparent in Board activities and to educate the voters.speaking up in the interest of education (their constituents)
Monday September 9, 2013 7:52 John
7:52
Stan Jester: 

Argh, You are truly fortunate. If the Tapestry Charter is approved, you will have the opportunity to choose between your terrific school and Tapestry Charter if you think it's even better.

Monday September 9, 2013 7:52 Stan Jester
7:53
John: 
Ooops. Didn't finish editing my 7:52 remarks.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:53 John
7:54
Nancy Jester: 
Uh-oh....now we're talking about Strategic Planning. Hope you read my last blog: Strategic Churn: http://whatsupwiththat.nancyjester.com/2013/08/30/527/ . How many times are we going to pay the same people for the same plan that won't be implemented and won't work. Plus the people who are writing it lobbied against the Charter Amendment. So, we know that decentralization won't be a principle or idea that gets real time in the "strategic plan". If we must (and why must we?) couldn't we have picked another group of consultants?
Monday September 9, 2013 7:54 Nancy Jester
7:55
Nancy Jester: 
Or....just dust off the plan done last year by the same people? Hello, why are we paying for this again?
Monday September 9, 2013 7:55 Nancy Jester
7:55
Stan Jester: 
We are about to spend millions on the exact same process using the exact same consultants to get the exact same strategic plan with the exact same results.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:55 Stan Jester
7:55
[Comment From Dunwoody MomDunwoody Mom: ] 
Community Engagement which will take place and then be ignored, just like the all the last focus groups.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:55 Dunwoody Mom
7:55
The Deal: 
All I am seeing in my head as they drone on and on about the strategic plan is $$$$$$$$$$$$ being wasted on adults sitting around and talking instead of being allocated to classroom resources. It is insulting.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:55 The Deal
7:56
Don McChesney: 
You are right again Nancy. They are reinventing the wheel by starting from scratch. It is only taxpayer money. There was a decent plan that could have been tweaked.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:56 Don McChesney
7:56
Nancy Jester: 
Clue: Whenever you hear the following words you should be concerned:
alignment
process
impact
input
(there are more....)
Monday September 9, 2013 7:56 Nancy Jester
7:57
The Deal: 
This is all job security for Ramona.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:57 The Deal
7:57
Nancy Jester: 
Thanks Don! I know that you could see through the edu-babble. Plus you asked questions. How novel!
Monday September 9, 2013 7:57 Nancy Jester
7:59
The Deal: 
There are 40 people on the strategic planning team. Yeah, they'll definitely get a lot done.
Monday September 9, 2013 7:59 The Deal
8:00
[Comment From Dunwoody MomDunwoody Mom: ] 
WAY too many people on that planning team.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:00 Dunwoody Mom
8:00
The Deal: 
I cannot believe we pay Ramona over $200K for this job.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:00 The Deal
8:01
Stan Jester: 
Let's not forget that Dr. Elgart pushed this new Strategic Plan.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:01 Stan Jester
8:02
The Deal: 
"And so on and so on." $$$$$$$
Monday September 9, 2013 8:02 The Deal
8:04
Don McChesney: 
Dr. Elgart wanted to send some more money to his best buddies the GSBA.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:04 Don McChesney
8:06
The Deal: 
Oh, good. Thurmond has been working on his 90-day plan with Dr. Morcease Beasley.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:06 The Deal
8:08
truthseeker: 
It seems every super. needs to have a strategic plan or 90 day entry plan to make them look like they are doing something. He who has the most xerox pages must have the best plan.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:08 truthseeker
8:09
Nancy Jester: 
Stan - We have a relatively "new" strategic plan written by the GSBA. Why don't we start there and save some money. Are they going to produce a document that is really different? Plus as we know from many studies over 40 years, strategic planning is not correlated with increases in student achievement.

Don - You're on to something.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:09 Nancy Jester
8:10
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Are there any documents associated with this bridge initiative?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:10 DeKalbInsideOut
8:11
The Deal: 
Thurmond is regurgitating House Bill 400: Building Resourceful Individuals to Develop Georgia's Economy Act (BRIDGE Act)
Monday September 9, 2013 8:11 The Deal
8:12
Concerned Citizen: 
Why is he even talking about this??? What in the blazes is his point? Oohhh, he's a real nutty guy.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:12 Concerned Citizen
8:13
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
I think Michael Thurmond is a big fan of Dr. Beasley. Folks we're in trouble.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:13 Just Jan
8:13
The Deal: 
Blah, blah, blah. More adults being paid to spit out PowerPoint presentations, acronyms, plans, and theories.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:13 The Deal
8:14
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
Oh, now we've got flags. Fly your flag Stephanie Stepney.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:14 Just Jan
8:15
Concerned Citizen: 
Yes, yes, yes. And I believe Thurmond loves Beastley like a schoolboy loves his pie. Can you believe it? Has anybody watched Beastley over the past couple of years. Oh, no, Stephanie Stepney, another F&F...oh, noooooooo
Monday September 9, 2013 8:15 Concerned Citizen
8:15
DeKalbInsideOut: 
This PowerPoint presentation is arrow deficient ... sub par presentation. I need more arrows.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:15 DeKalbInsideOut
8:16
[Comment From Dunwoody MomDunwoody Mom: ] 
And this data for Economically Disadvantaged is not new!!! It's been highlighted for years under NCLB. What is the point???
Monday September 9, 2013 8:16 Dunwoody Mom
8:17
Dunwoody Mom: 
Plans, plans, plans, plans and more plans.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:17 Dunwoody Mom
8:17
Concerned Citizen: 
It's the pitts. Why or why is this happening? Who do they think they're presenting to? Of course, it's new to some, even oldtimers like MJ, him especially. Believe me,arrows mean nothing to him!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:17 Concerned Citizen
8:17
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
I'm puzzled. I get that poor students don't perform as well as more affluent children. But what about the differences between poor Asians and poor African-Americans? What does that tell us?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:17 Just Jan
8:18
Concerned Citizen: 
Well, Jan, what some don't want to hear.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:18 Concerned Citizen
8:20
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Here's a plan: support your teachers!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:20 Dunwoody Supermom
8:20
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
Targets, silos, strategy, deploy, re-deploy. What's with all the military jargon? Are we at war with our children?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:20 Just Jan
8:21
Stan Jester: 

We've been teaching reading, writing and arithematic for thousands of years. It's not that hard. All this money we're spending on whatever "this" is and strategic planning could be spent on the schoolhouse and teachers.

Monday September 9, 2013 8:21 Stan Jester
8:21
Dunwoody Mom: 
Do they not understand that the increase in class size has almost wiped out gifted classes? Some AP classes cut due to class size increase requirement?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:21 Dunwoody Mom
8:23
Concerned Citizen: 
Where on earth did his jargon come from? Strategic planning is out of vogue big time. I know that AP and gifted classes are suffering, and Cunningham wonders why affluent DeKalb wants out? Make that "caring DeKalb,; much for so that "affluent."
Monday September 9, 2013 8:23 Concerned Citizen
8:24
Concerned Citizen: 
Thurmond looks like he's been rode hard and put out to dry, or perhaps "stoned" would be a more apt description.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:24 Concerned Citizen
8:25
Stan Jester: 
Expect the Interim Superintendent to tour the parent councils over the next few months pushing this bridge program.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:25 Stan Jester
8:26
Concerned Citizen: 
It won't do him any good because it's rubbish!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:26 Concerned Citizen
8:26
Nancy Jester: 
Did Dr. Beasley say they are bringing back Graduation Coaches?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:26 Nancy Jester
8:26
[Comment From @votekidsmartgeo@votekidsmartgeo: ] 
Even those "not affluent" want out! A billion dollar budget and we still have kids in nasty moldy trailers. Something has to give. We have to cut the Admin pork!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:26 @votekidsmartgeo
8:26
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Refunding graduation coaches?!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:26 Dunwoody Supermom
8:27
Nancy Jester: 
Votekidsmartgeo - It seems like malpractice to me that we've spent so much SPLOST money and have trailers.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:27 Nancy Jester
8:27
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
That's what the man said ...
Monday September 9, 2013 8:27 Guest
8:27
Concerned Citizen: 
Oh, that's wonderful - more graduation coaches - more jobs for F&F. I saw firsthand what you do - it's called "nothing."
Monday September 9, 2013 8:27 Concerned Citizen
8:27
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
How about we simply fund the existing career pathway programs?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:27 Guest
8:28
Dunwoody Mom: 
Please make this stop. These people are clueless.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:28 Dunwoody Mom
8:28
truthseeker: 
Why don't we just bring back Crawford L. Thurmond is bringing back all his hires. I did not know our money situation was so good.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:28 truthseeker
8:28
[Comment From @votekidsmartgeo@votekidsmartgeo: ] 
That's the truth...graduation coaches....geez!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:28 @votekidsmartgeo
8:29
Concerned Citizen: 
Isn't it outrageous?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:29 Concerned Citizen
8:29
[Comment From KimKim: ] 
oops ... Didn't mean to be anon ... not my style :) ... the commenter formerly known as "Guest"
Monday September 9, 2013 8:29 Kim
8:30
Concerned Citizen: 
Our money is always there for F&Fs. Isn't anyone going to question it?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:30 Concerned Citizen
8:30
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Everyone's tax dollars are used for all the schools in DeKalb County, whether we have children in public schools or not.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:30 DeKalb Doyenne
8:31
Stan Jester: 

Speak up at your Parent Council meetings. Thurmond will be there. Tell him what you think.

Monday September 9, 2013 8:31 Stan Jester
8:32
Concerned Citizen: 
There are many, many taxpayers in DeKalb who do not have children. There are also many, many residents of DeKalb who have lots and lots of children. We the taxpayers pay for all of the children. Stan, Thurmond, if he shows, is not capable of listening. He is on a whole-class ego trip. Just look at him!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:32 Concerned Citizen
8:33
Kim: 
Sorry to be remedial here but bedtime duties trumped PDS broadcast ... where on earth are their agenda? This sounds like nothing I see on it below ...
Monday September 9, 2013 8:33 Kim
8:33
Concerned Citizen: 
Thurmond and crew are tripping, Kim.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:33 Concerned Citizen
8:33
Kim: 
C11??
Monday September 9, 2013 8:33 Kim
8:34
Stan Jester: 
This is part of the interim superintendent report
Monday September 9, 2013 8:34 Stan Jester
8:34
Kim: 
eek! B1?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:34 Kim
8:34
Concerned Citizen: 
OMG - makes no sense at all.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:34 Concerned Citizen
8:35
[Comment From InTheAudienceInTheAudience: ] 
Emory Lavista Parent Council on Sept. 17...be there and bring these questions!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:35 InTheAudience
8:35
@votekidsmartgeo: 
It is going to be a long night!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:35 @votekidsmartgeo
8:35
Kim: 
Sept 17 be where precisely? :)
Monday September 9, 2013 8:35 Kim
8:36
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Yes, Thurmond is on a huge ego trip...he talks to us as if he's on the pulpit, as if he is our shepherd and we are his flock...personally, it's simply insulting.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:36 Dunwoody Supermom
8:36
[Comment From InTheAudienceInTheAudience: ] 
Detes on www.emory-lavista.org
Monday September 9, 2013 8:36 InTheAudience
8:37
Concerned Citizen: 
Thank you, Dunwoody Supermom. That's what I want to say, too. Isn't he unbelievable? He's a real demon.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:37 Concerned Citizen
8:37
truthseeker: 
This is what happens when you do not have a professional at the helm.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:37 truthseeker
8:37
DeKalb Doyenne: 
If Robert James has his way, charges against CLew-less will be dropped completely and Lewis will be right back in the catbird seat. Robert James has NEVEr intended to take Lewis and Pope to trial.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:37 DeKalb Doyenne
8:38
Concerned Citizen: 
Robert James is a big, maybe the biggest, part of the problem with DeKalb in general.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:38 Concerned Citizen
8:38
Kim: 
Thank you InTheAudience but there doesn't appear to be a location set yet on the site. I'll keep ear to ground kimosabe.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:38 Kim
8:38
The Deal: 
I am sick to my stomach. So we gutted everything, and they are reinstating the most wasteful things with the "surplus"?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:38 The Deal
8:39
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Robert James is just another one of the DeKalb thugs -- with a second-rate law degree.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:39 DeKalb Doyenne
8:39
Concerned Citizen: 
Well, we do need that PP afterall(Palace Picket).
Monday September 9, 2013 8:39 Concerned Citizen
8:39
The Deal: 
Emory Lavista Parent Council Join us at 6:30 pm ** Please note: this is an evening meeting!** (refreshments begin at 6:00 pm) Tuesday, September 17, 2013 Druid Hills High School 1798 Haygood Drive, Atlanta, GA 30307 Our Guest Speaker Interim Superintendent Michael Thurmond presents State of the System
Monday September 9, 2013 8:39 The Deal
8:39
Dunwoody Mom: 
Will here be funds for non-Title 1 schools who serve a significant number of Title 1 students?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:39 Dunwoody Mom
8:39
Kim: 
Excellent - thank you for the details for everyone to share and attend!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:39 Kim
8:40
Kim: 
I'm come by and steal back our principal :)
Monday September 9, 2013 8:40 Kim
8:40
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Parking at DHHS is extremely limited. So, people who are going should carpool -- 3 or 4 to a car.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:40 DeKalb Doyenne
8:40
InTheAudience: 
Thanks Deal! I'm on my mobile and not as quick at cut and paste.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:40 InTheAudience
8:41
Kim: 
Meanwhile we have no longer have translators in our CK schools ... wonder if that's in the plan?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:41 Kim
8:41
Concerned Citizen: 
STATE OF THE SYSTEM - NOW, THAT'S RICH!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:41 Concerned Citizen
8:41
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Will someone from DHHS be videotaping the meeting?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:41 DeKalb Doyenne
8:42
Stan Jester: 
I'll be there!!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:42 Stan Jester
8:42
Kim: 
Anyone know the answer to the question about Title I students in "non-Title I" schools?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:42 Kim
8:42
The Deal: 
Stan is the master videographer at these meetings!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:42 The Deal
8:43
Concerned Citizen: 
Thanks, again, Stan - I would love for you to run for the Board. God bless you and Nancy!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:43 Concerned Citizen
8:43
Kim: 
We at CK attendance run minimum of 86% up to 99.5% so it's not an area I've investigated.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:43 Kim
8:43
DeKalb Doyenne: 
I know! He's the best!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:43 DeKalb Doyenne
8:43
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Kim, Seems like any school serving a lot of Title I students would be a Title I school.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:43 DeKalbInsideOut
8:44
Kim: 
DIO - well, I don't know if what seems, ends up being true often enough :)
Monday September 9, 2013 8:44 Kim
8:44
Stan Jester: 

Thank you for the kind words. We are all in this together. You grill 'em and I'll get it on tape and publish it.

Monday September 9, 2013 8:44 Stan Jester
8:44
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Stan, is there a way to send out your videotape on a live feed?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:44 DeKalb Doyenne
8:44
The Deal: 
My TV was taken over by an NFL fan. Has Thurmond stopped talking yet?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:44 The Deal
8:45
Dunwoody Mom: 
There are non-Title 1 schools with upwards of 30% F&R lunch students who are also ESOL students. These are significant enough numbers that these schools should receive assistance for these students.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:45 Dunwoody Mom
8:45
Kim: 
Right, but do they?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:45 Kim
8:45
Stan Jester: 
Yes. I've been working on the live feed. Perhaps I could do a live feed and a realtime blog.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:45 Stan Jester
8:45
Dunwoody Mom: 
I think the individual schools do their best. Not sure how much support those schools get from CO.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:45 Dunwoody Mom
8:46
Kim: 
We've shipped off bi-lingual staff to Huntley Hills, for example, because they have "real" funding for heads while ours tend to be "Title I" funding which is ethereal, apparently.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:46 Kim
8:47
Stan Jester: 
ESOL students bring in more QBE funding. The district doesn't have to spend it on those students. Title I is federal and more restrictive on what they can be spent on.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:47 Stan Jester
8:47
Kim: 
Huntley Hills has a very significant Title I and ESOL pop.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:47 Kim
8:47
Don McChesney: 
Kim A few years ago I checked to see how much money in Title I funds district 2 got. It was $900,000 out of a total of $42 million allotted to the entire system.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:47 Don McChesney
8:47
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
"We will see the impact of the strategy that these 2 fine people have detailed"...can't wait.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:47 Dunwoody Supermom
8:47
Kim: 
Hi Don. Well, $900k used to be a lot of money :)
Monday September 9, 2013 8:47 Kim
8:48
Dunwoody Mom: 
My example is Hightower Elementary School. They are a Title 1 elementary school with I believe almost 80% F&RL. Those students feed into Peachtree Charter Middle school, which is not a Title 1 school. How do we insure those students get what they need without those Title 1 funds? Several people over the years have said Title 1 funds should follow the student, not the school.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:48 Dunwoody Mom
8:49
@raharkne: 
FYI
Monday September 9, 2013 8:49 @raharkne
8:49
Kim: 
DM - major issue. I have CK kids who's parents "transferred" them to Dunwoody HS and they come back.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:49 Kim
8:49
Kim: 
It's the services and culture gap.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:49 Kim
8:49
Stan Jester: 
By the way, the next parent council is Dunwoody Chamblee Parent Council - Dunwoody High School this Wednesday 9/11/2013. Refreshments at 8:45 and the show starts at 9:15am.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:49 Stan Jester
8:50
[Comment From guestguest: ] 
But how is it possible that a school like CK has absolutely no bilingual administrators?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:50 guest
8:50
[Comment From LeoLeo: ] 
My understanding is that Title I funds are allotted to the school not the student
Monday September 9, 2013 8:50 Leo
8:50
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Go to www.ed.gov/programs/titleiparta/ for information on Title I. I think there is a way for Title I monies to follow the students, but the school system can choose to identify a school as Title I and there is less restriction on how the money is spent. restrictionon spending the money who actually q
Monday September 9, 2013 8:50 DeKalb Doyenne
8:50
Stan Jester: 
Thurmond will be the main event at the DCPC meeting on Wednesday.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:50 Stan Jester
8:51
InTheAudience: 
So will Tapestry be discussed?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:51 InTheAudience
8:51
Kim: 
Like many themes in public education, there's a strong argument for local control of Title I funds.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:51 Kim
8:52
Kim: 
The system may have their hearts in the right places but they have proven incapable of supporting Title I usage in the schools that meet the needs. It's an annual fiasoc.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:52 Kim
8:52
Kim: 
fiasoc or fiasco, either way!
Monday September 9, 2013 8:52 Kim
8:52
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Title 1 funds follow the student UNTIL the school is designated Title 1
Monday September 9, 2013 8:52 @votekidsmartgeo
8:52
Stan Jester: 
Title I funding and QBE funding should all be controlled locally. This is one of the big points of the Druid Hills Charter Cluster.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:52 Stan Jester
8:53
Dunwoody Mom: 
No doubt Kim. With all of this Title 1 funding DCSS receives, it has not shown to be lifting academic achievement within our schools.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:53 Dunwoody Mom
8:53
Curious: 
Oh boy. How did we end up with a superintendent who doesn't seem to have even a basic understanding of how schools are funded and/or how best to apply those funds to educate the children inside the buildings? And then, how did we end up with such a hard-nosed know it all like Dr. Morley? How did things get so much worse? When will they get better?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:53 Curious
8:54
Leo: 
@votesmart how does that work then at our many schools that are right under the required threshold for Title I? At my elementary school, we have 35% FRL but I don't believe that we get any Title I services/programs (although the students get FRL, which is a separate program)
Monday September 9, 2013 8:54 Leo
8:54
Kim: 
DM - well, yes, that but also simply the operational dependencies on Title I funding mean delays and shortfalls every year at our schools. It's horribly disruptive.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:54 Kim
8:54
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Oops -- problem with what I wrote. Sorry. There is less restriction on spending the title I money on students who actually qualify as Title I. That allows DCSS to spend the money on F-and-F. Also, I think there is not as much oversight when a whole school is Title I. In DCSS, there is a lot of Title I fraud -- no one checks the parents' financials. Sometimes the parents don't even fill out the forms. I'll do some research on this and send it to DSW to publish.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:54 DeKalb Doyenne
8:54
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
no. if a school doesn
Monday September 9, 2013 8:54 Guest
8:55
Kim: 
Doyenne - our CK Title I schools can't belch a Title I dollar with CO oversight.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:55 Kim
8:56
Kim: 
And it seems to get more restrictive each year.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:56 Kim
8:56
@votekidsmartgeo: 
In our school (state chartered, we could only use Title 1 funds on children who qualified until the school was designated Title 1. And we adhered to it. Maybe it works different in DCSS?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:56 @votekidsmartgeo
8:57
DeKalbInsideOut: 
I smell an oversight committee coming. That'll help ... kind of like that SPLOST oversight committee that's knocking it out of the park.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:57 DeKalbInsideOut
8:58
Kim: 
And ... when the funds are actually "released" at the CO level, it doesn't mean it gets used in practice. Many needs and opportunities come up that have days or weeks lead time ... no can do with Title I because reviews and approvals can be very slooooooooow at CO
Monday September 9, 2013 8:58 Kim
8:58
Stan Jester: 
** Tapestry ** is up
Monday September 9, 2013 8:58 Stan Jester
8:58
Dunwoody Mom: 
I believe a school has to be 60% FRL in DCSS to be labeled Title 1. I thought at one time there was a conversation to bring it down to 40%?
Monday September 9, 2013 8:58 Dunwoody Mom
8:58
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Tapestry.....
Monday September 9, 2013 8:58 Dunwoody Supermom
8:58
Concerned Citizen: 
Title I management over many years in DeKalb is among their biggest embarrassments because so much of the funds go to outright partying and F&F fun and games. You ask for specifics, I will tell you. And it does seem Title I people talk the good game about all their restrictions and how they can't pay for teachers, but in reality, the money is spent on whatever the director(s)want, the even the supt most of all this supt can't control the spending. It's a joke even for Thurmond.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:58 Concerned Citizen
8:59
@votekidsmartgeo: 
This is why local schools need total control of Title 1 funds.
Monday September 9, 2013 8:59 @votekidsmartgeo
9:00
DeKalbInsideOut: 
I'm confused. Why is funding being discussed. Doesn't the money follow the child?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:00 DeKalbInsideOut
9:00
Leo: 
What a joke -- ask the folks at Globe how working with the county as a charter school shakes out
Monday September 9, 2013 9:00 Leo
9:00
DeKalb Doyenne: 
That's because they are skating on very thin ice and using the money from Title I for themselves and their F-and-F. Remember when the poorest of the poor students were sent to high-achieving schools, if their schools were failing? But, DCSS would not budge from identifying schools as Title I, so these very poorly prepared students got no Title I services once they transferred to a high performing school. DCSS acted like their hands were tied, but they weren't. They don't care about the kids -- only about funding their F-and-F pals.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:00 DeKalb Doyenne
9:00
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Not in DeKalb County Schools it doesn't.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:00 DeKalb Doyenne
9:01
truthseeker: 
Title I funds are abused just like SPLOST funds.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:01 truthseeker
9:01
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Apparently.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:01 @votekidsmartgeo
9:01
Concerned Citizen: 
Totally.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:01 Concerned Citizen
9:02
Guest: 
and look at who runs and works at Globe vs. other schools.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:02 Guest
9:02
Kim: 
Guest? Can you enlighten us? I don't get the implication ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:02 Kim
9:02
Concerned Citizen: 
Do tell. I sincerely don't know!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:02 Concerned Citizen
9:02
Nancy Jester: 
The variance between how DCSS funds different charter schools is part of the problem. One school may get large amounts per pupil and one may be on a starvation diet. My belief is that DCSS is often hostile to non-Friends and Family charters because then they actually have to demonstrate what per pupil funding is, send it to them and then lose the leverage they have to "eat" more of that funding at the central office.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:02 Nancy Jester
9:03
DeKalb Doyenne: 
There is little federal oversight for schools that are Title I as long as it appears that the school system is running a tight ship. So, DCSS gets all the money by designating schools as Title I, instead of designating students as Title I and pouring the money into academic help for those students.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:03 DeKalb Doyenne
9:03
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Aren't these questions that should've been investigated long before this meeting? They are questions concerning monies for charters in general...nothing to do with Tapestry specifically.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:03 Dunwoody Supermom
9:03
Concerned Citizen: 
That's why the director(s) of Title I are so running scared all the time.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:03 Concerned Citizen
9:04
DeKalbInsideOut: 
No kidding Sherlock ... you're just finding this out about Charter Schools?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:04 DeKalbInsideOut
9:04
Leo: 
The leadership at Globe is doing the best they can, but they just informed all of us that they won't fund a part-time nurse which was previously committed to by the county. And the fact that the BOD is asking about transportation is frustrating. The county won't provide that either
Monday September 9, 2013 9:04 Leo
9:04
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Absolutely. But, none of these board members care enough to be prepared for the meetings. Being on the board for this group is just resume fodder for them.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:04 DeKalb Doyenne
9:05
Leo: 
I should clarify, the school leadership just notified parents that the county won't fund certain things that it previously committed to
Monday September 9, 2013 9:05 Leo
9:05
Concerned Citizen: 
Exactly right, being on the board is crap for all of them. I personally don't like or trust any of them.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:05 Concerned Citizen
9:06
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
That's a shame, Leo. I know that so many parents were so excited about having their child attend the new Globe Academy.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:06 Dunwoody Supermom
9:06
Leo: 
Globe is great, don't get me wrong. The county just isn't fully following through but I think the leadership team is doing the best with what it's got.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:06 Leo
9:07
Concerned Citizen: 
Well, Globe is a hot mess, Dunwoody Supermom. I'm sorry for all of us who want to believe.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:07 Concerned Citizen
9:07
truthseeker: 
If globe is not supporting what they have written in their charter they could lose it.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:07 truthseeker
9:08
Dunwoody Mom: 
Didn't Globe's "Principal" leave right before school started.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:08 Dunwoody Mom
9:08
Leo: 
Globe is supporting it. The county isn't providing certain services it previously agreed to provide. That's all. I would be worried that the BOD seems to be looking for ways to ensure that it can get out of certain commitments if it wants to.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:08 Leo
9:08
DeKalb Doyenne: 
Unless the Globe leadership speaks up and lets people know what is wrong, they and the kids will continue to suffer. DCSS is run by a bunch of greedy bullies and thugs. Bullies don't respect people who "play nice.".
Monday September 9, 2013 9:08 DeKalb Doyenne
9:08
Stan Jester: 
Perhaps Dr. Morley should let the parents decide if they want to go to Tapestry or not. The parents should decide if they approve of the teacher/student ratio. If she cared that much about the ratio, she would insist that parent center and bridge money went to the classroom.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:08 Stan Jester
9:08
Concerned Citizen: 
Leo, it's just not enough that the leadership team is doing its best. Yes the principal did leave, why? How can they function as a school without the support they were promised. Leo!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:08 Concerned Citizen
9:10
Concerned Citizen: 
Stan, perhaps the Love Doctor doesn't give a damn. That's my thinking. I find her especially objectionable. Full of crap.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:10 Concerned Citizen
9:10
Stan Jester: 
Tapestry Charter, unlike the Druid Hills Charter Cluster, can petition the state.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:10 Stan Jester
9:10
Leo: 
Yes, the head of school departed right at the time school started but was quickly replaced by another member of leadership who has demonstrated, overwhelmingly, his commitment to the school. @Concerned Citizen, I agree the county should honor its commitments and Tapestry should be concerned. Especially now that they are having a charter school debate generally based on the funds it takes from any particular school.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:10 Leo
9:11
Leo: 
Not fair to Tapestry?!?! Bull shit. They don't want to relinquish control of the money.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:11 Leo
9:11
Dunwoody Mom: 
So, whether or not approving a Charter school will affect the entire school district is a criteria for approval/non=approval? Wow....
Monday September 9, 2013 9:11 Dunwoody Mom
9:11
Concerned Citizen: 
Leo, why did the principal leave, please? That's the question.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:11 Concerned Citizen
9:11
Dunwoody Mom: 
Yes, Nancy and I have to believe the state would approve it.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:11 Dunwoody Mom
9:12
Kim: 
This is a healthy, open debate ... wow.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:12 Kim
9:13
Leo: 
That's a personnel issue which the school can't directly comment on but I'm under the impression that she was having difficulty implementing the model and dedicating the time/effort required to start a new school. She's been replaced by one of the founders of the school and another individual who are overwhelmingly dedicated. I don't think that the departure of leadership early on has been remotely detrimental to the school as the new leaders are committed to making the school successful.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:13 Leo
9:13
Concerned Citizen: 
Kim, you're fun.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:13 Concerned Citizen
9:13
Kim: 
It's all I got!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:13 Kim
9:13
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Charter schools deal with lots of growing pains. Ours had two principals leave at once...but we overcame the issues. It is hard to deal with the reduced funding that we've had to deal with. But we produced results because we aren't funding DCSS Admin. Appeal to the State.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:13 @votekidsmartgeo
9:14
Kim: 
So, this is clearly the "high road" by Marshall and certainly a beachhead for the Charter Cluster, n'est pas?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:14 Kim
9:14
Concerned Citizen: 
Leo, what is "the model"? Also, I'm not buying the story, Leo.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:14 Concerned Citizen
9:14
Kim: 
So, this is a very, very important exchange going on right now ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:14 Kim
9:15
Kim: 
Marshall is really warning his peers here ... I think he has a point.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:15 Kim
9:15
Concerned Citizen: 
What is he saying?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:15 Concerned Citizen
9:15
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
The impact of Tapestry on the entire school district? How much money they'll "lose"? They're working hard to have a viable reason to reject the Tapestry charter..what a shame...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:15 Dunwoody Supermom
9:15
Kim: 
Support the Charter
Monday September 9, 2013 9:15 Kim
9:16
Kim: 
Significant voices are saying, "No."
Monday September 9, 2013 9:16 Kim
9:16
@votekidsmartgeo: 
YES!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:16 @votekidsmartgeo
9:17
Kim: 
The biggest vote in DCSD recent memory will be on the Charter Cluster and I don't think it's a given.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:17 Kim
9:17
Concerned Citizen: 
It has to be YES if education is to continue in DeKalb.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:17 Concerned Citizen
9:17
Leo: 
@Concerned Citizen. Can't help you with the story. As for the model, it's a constructivism/workshop model. Two of my kids are at Globe. They are learning and happy. It's been somewhat chaotic to say the least, but the main reasons I went there are still in existence: (1) dual immersion language; (2) 11-1 student/teacher ratio. Is it perfect? No. Do I have some frustrations? Yes. But I think it's going to be better than leaving their fate to the CO even though my local school was a place we were happy.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:17 Leo
9:18
Nancy Jester: 
Throwing good money after bad? What does Dr. Morely think DeKalb does on a daily basis?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 Nancy Jester
9:18
Kim: 
:)
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 Kim
9:18
DeKalbInsideOut: 
A 'No' on Tapestry will speak just as loudly. This is a referendum on charter schools. They are debating the constitutional amendment all over again.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 DeKalbInsideOut
9:18
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Amen, Nancy!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 @votekidsmartgeo
9:18
Concerned Citizen: 
OK, I need to learn more about Globe. Thanks so much, Leo!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 Concerned Citizen
9:18
Kim: 
DIO: agreed.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 Kim
9:18
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Yes.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:18 @votekidsmartgeo
9:19
Kim: 
It will be a "tell" for Cluster
Monday September 9, 2013 9:19 Kim
9:19
Leo: 
That's exactly what's happening and it's disappointing that so many on this leadership team are anti-charter schools
Monday September 9, 2013 9:19 Leo
9:19
@votekidsmartgeo: 
They don't want competition!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:19 @votekidsmartgeo
9:19
Nancy Jester: 
Tapestry is not on trial. If they fail, their charter should be revoked. The current system is a demonstrable failure. If we want to stop throwing good money after bad, then she must tacitly support independent school districts.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:19 Nancy Jester
9:19
Concerned Citizen: 
I wouldn't call this mess a team? They are puppets, Leo.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:19 Concerned Citizen
9:20
Leo: 
Touche Concerned Citizen
Monday September 9, 2013 9:20 Leo
9:20
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
have they voted on tapestry yet
Monday September 9, 2013 9:20 Guest
9:20
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Puppets...exactly!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:20 Dunwoody Supermom
9:20
Kim: 
This is the discussion on that item
Monday September 9, 2013 9:20 Kim
9:20
Kim: 
They are really searching for a way to defer
Monday September 9, 2013 9:20 Kim
9:21
Kim: 
Can they not move to defer also? Or is this timeboxed?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:21 Kim
9:21
Kim: 
I guess it has to be voted on up or down since it's on the agenda
Monday September 9, 2013 9:21 Kim
9:22
DeKalbInsideOut: 
It's timeboxed. They are very close to their grace period ... I believe.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:22 DeKalbInsideOut
9:22
Concerned Citizen: 
If sneaky butt MJ has had any contact with someone with an IQ of say 90 and asked how to put this baby to bed, he might find a way.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:22 Concerned Citizen
9:23
Kim: 
They really want to deliberate more ... obviously.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:23 Kim
9:24
Kim: 
This is wisdom
Monday September 9, 2013 9:24 Kim
9:24
Concerned Citizen: 
They don't have the remotest clue what they're doing. OMG
Monday September 9, 2013 9:24 Concerned Citizen
9:24
Kim: 
He is pionting out it is possibly pointless
Monday September 9, 2013 9:24 Kim
9:24
Dunwoody Mom: 
This is insane!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:24 Dunwoody Mom
9:25
Kim: 
This is a Board that doesn't want to vote on the question. Very painful
Monday September 9, 2013 9:25 Kim
9:25
Concerned Citizen: 
I've got something more painful more each of them...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:25 Concerned Citizen
9:26
Kim: 
Who's running this meeting? Am I missing something? No one is chairing ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:26 Kim
9:26
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
If you're not hearing that the Board wants to deny the petition, you're missing ALOT.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:26 Dunwoody Supermom
9:26
Kim: 
Wow
Monday September 9, 2013 9:26 Kim
9:26
Concerned Citizen: 
They are going to deny it.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:26 Concerned Citizen
9:27
Leo: 
It's good to know exactly where Thurmond comes down on this.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:27 Leo
9:27
Kim: 
Now, speaking on behalf of the Board ... not good form.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:27 Kim
9:27
truthseeker: 
Wow and these are the people Brad Bryant picked for our BOE.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:27 truthseeker
9:27
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
That'd be MJ - if MJ isn't hearing it, he's missing alot...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:27 Dunwoody Supermom
9:27
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
cant someone jus call the question
Monday September 9, 2013 9:27 Guest
9:27
Concerned Citizen: 
Yes, Leo, and Brad did the picking!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:27 Concerned Citizen
9:28
Concerned Citizen: 
Shame, shame on them all.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:28 Concerned Citizen
9:28
Kim: 
Rut roh ... he just said there's no substantial reason to vote no
Monday September 9, 2013 9:28 Kim
9:29
a mm: 
who said that kim
Monday September 9, 2013 9:29 a mm
9:29
Kim: 
The counsel
Monday September 9, 2013 9:29 Kim
9:29
Concerned Citizen: 
Who?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:29 Concerned Citizen
9:30
Kim: 
I believe it's Mr. James, DCSD Legal Counsel, no?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:30 Kim
9:30
Stan Jester: 
The counsel was Lawrence Warco ... very smart gentlemen from Sutherland.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:30 Stan Jester
9:30
Kim: 
oh, thanks, sorry - Mr. James is supposed to be chairing :)
Monday September 9, 2013 9:30 Kim
9:30
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Good for him!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:30 @votekidsmartgeo
9:30
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
Staff recommended earlier that they approve it...the Board doesn't want to go with Staff's recommendation.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:30 Dunwoody Supermom
9:31
Kim: 
He basically said, "You can vote against it but not for any reason you've stated against the petition."
Monday September 9, 2013 9:31 Kim
9:31
Concerned Citizen: 
Well, that's a first!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:31 Concerned Citizen
9:31
Kim: 
wow, Thurmond is going one-on-one with the petitioner
Monday September 9, 2013 9:31 Kim
9:32
a mm: 
about what -- so4ry I can
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 a mm
9:32
Concerned Citizen: 
That's really what he's always wanted to do but is too puny and cowardly.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 Concerned Citizen
9:32
Kim: 
so, that's another, "yes."
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 Kim
9:32
truthseeker: 
I bet this BOE has not even read the charter.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 truthseeker
9:32
Kim: 
So, who's paying attention ... Marshall - yes, Jim = yes, ....
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 Kim
9:32
Concerned Citizen: 
that's the shame. the board is totally unprepared
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 Concerned Citizen
9:32
Kim: 
I think District 1 = yes
Monday September 9, 2013 9:32 Kim
9:33
Concerned Citizen: 
Most look drugged.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:33 Concerned Citizen
9:33
Kim: 
that's 3
Monday September 9, 2013 9:33 Kim
9:33
Kim: 
my web cam on again?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:33 Kim
9:33
Nancy Jester: 
This is odd because the staff recommendation on the agenda was to APPROVE this charter. Now Thurmond and some board members are trying to kill it or, at least delay it. Why present it for "approval" in the first place?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:33 Nancy Jester
9:33
Kim: 
To make a public display politically?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:33 Kim
9:33
Kim: 
Any other yes votes besides the 3 I'm guessin?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:33 Kim
9:34
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Ugh.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:34 @votekidsmartgeo
9:34
Concerned Citizen: 
Nancy, that's Thurmond's way - to do anything against what's right.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:34 Concerned Citizen
9:34
Kim: 
Bingo! - Marshall
Monday September 9, 2013 9:34 Kim
9:34
Kim: 
Run the clock out is a strategy
Monday September 9, 2013 9:34 Kim
9:34
Nancy Jester: 
They could make a pubic display by bringing it with a recommendation to "reject". It's just so strange.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:34 Nancy Jester
9:34
The Deal: 
I looooooooooove how their standards are higher for Tapestry than any of the other 100 schools they are in charge of.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:34 The Deal
9:35
Concerned Citizen: 
too right, The Deal!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:35 Concerned Citizen
9:35
Nancy Jester: 
Amen The Deal!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:35 Nancy Jester
9:35
Don McChesney: 
Kim I think you have the numbers right.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:35 Don McChesney
9:35
[Comment From Dunwoody SupermomDunwoody Supermom: ] 
omg, I agree with marshall...out of body experience...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:35 Dunwoody Supermom
9:35
Kim: 
seems like a familiar yes/no ratio, Don?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:35 Kim
9:35
Concerned Citizen: 
good one, Supermom!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:35 Concerned Citizen
9:36
Don McChesney: 
You are so right Kim. What's new?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:36 Don McChesney
9:36
Nancy Jester: 
That's a good question Mr. Coleman. But it seems your Superintendent and his staff have changed his mind on you.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:36 Nancy Jester
9:37
Kim: 
Well, Don, there's this: http://youtu.be/50_-zqsgDA4
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Kim
9:37
Dunwoody Supermom: 
They're punishing Tapestry by wasting the first 1 1/2 hrs explaining their Bridge Initiative..you've GOT to be kidding me...now, they're ready to just go home...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Dunwoody Supermom
9:37
Kim: 
Kinetic Sand should be in every school
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Kim
9:37
Leo: 
Are they really suggesting that the charter petitioners deal directly with Thurmond on whether to accept/deny the charter even though after the official process the recommendation was to approve it?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Leo
9:37
The Deal: 
Thurmond and Johnson are so in cahoots.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 The Deal
9:37
Leo: 
How can this proposed process be legit?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Leo
9:37
Don McChesney: 
Coleman will do whatever Marshall and McMahan do.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Don McChesney
9:37
Nancy Jester: 
Are they going to defer this charter and put it in the same place they put GAC accreditation. Anybody know the status of that accreditation process?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:37 Nancy Jester
9:38
Concerned Citizen: 
Johnson and Thurmond are joined at the hip
Monday September 9, 2013 9:38 Concerned Citizen
9:38
Kim: 
How can they address issues of the State law?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:38 Kim
9:38
Concerned Citizen: 
They can't
Monday September 9, 2013 9:38 Concerned Citizen
9:38
Stan Jester: 
Tapestry Charter will be put on the same shelf as the After School Money policy.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:38 Stan Jester
9:39
Concerned Citizen: 
Fraid so
Monday September 9, 2013 9:39 Concerned Citizen
9:39
The Deal: 
Thurmond circumventing this process is borderline illegal.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:39 The Deal
9:39
Nancy Jester: 
Stan - and, I maintain, GAC accreditation. The board approved it but have they done anything to move forward with this? Will they?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:39 Nancy Jester
9:40
Concerned Citizen: 
No, never, Nancy.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:40 Concerned Citizen
9:40
The Deal: 
Nancy, I'm sure they're hoping you'll forget it.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:40 The Deal
9:40
Kim: 
oh boy ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:40 Kim
9:40
Don McChesney: 
Kim let's give everyone on the BOE some of that kinetic sand and they can find their inner selves.MMMMMM
Monday September 9, 2013 9:40 Don McChesney
9:41
Kim: 
:)
Monday September 9, 2013 9:41 Kim
9:41
Kim: 
They have been off the rail for a while ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:41 Kim
9:41
Concerned Citizen: 
They don't have any inner selves to nourish, Don.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:41 Concerned Citizen
9:41
Nancy Jester: 
Me....forget something. Not likely. Just ask Stan ;-)
Monday September 9, 2013 9:41 Nancy Jester
9:41
The Deal: 
This is embarrassing. The staff had the petition since May. Now the board seems surprised that they are being expected to make a decision. They should have had these discussions over the summer.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:41 The Deal
9:42
Kim: 
Looks like we have a fourth, "yes"
Monday September 9, 2013 9:42 Kim
9:42
Concerned Citizen: 
"should have had?"
Monday September 9, 2013 9:42 Concerned Citizen
9:42
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
have they mentioned state appeal
Monday September 9, 2013 9:42 Guest
9:42
Dunwoody Supermom: 
How can they blame the Board for bad decisions, if they don't give them info til the last minute? Elgart?!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:42 Dunwoody Supermom
9:43
Concerned Citizen: 
Who is fourth person, KIm?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:43 Concerned Citizen
9:43
[Comment From Hanna_hurleyHanna_hurley: ] 
Just joined.Did they vote on PhDs?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:43 Hanna_hurley
9:43
The Deal: 
I loooooooove how they are concerned with class sizes when they cram 35 5th graders in a room, jam a class into a small trailer, and have special ed going on in hallways.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:43 The Deal
9:43
[Comment From @hanna_hurley@hanna_hurley: ] 
Any update on PhDs?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:43 @hanna_hurley
9:43
Kim: 
It sounded like Erwin was saying why wait?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:43 Kim
9:43
Dunwoody Supermom: 
So true, The Deal!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:43 Dunwoody Supermom
9:44
Concerned Citizen: 
Hanna, don't know, darling!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:44 Concerned Citizen
9:44
Nancy Jester: 
Supermom, that is Standard Operation Procedure. It's sad and the edustocracy supports keeping boards in the dark.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:44 Nancy Jester
9:44
Kim: 
He was subtly admonishing the Board for not being ready to vote?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:44 Kim
9:45
The Deal: 
Such a debacle.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 The Deal
9:45
Kim: 
I hate to be the parliamentarian but that agenda item was atrociously managed.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 Kim
9:45
Kim: 
completely invalid administration of the vote by the chair.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 Kim
9:45
Concerned Citizen: 
Thurmond? You think, Kim?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 Concerned Citizen
9:45
The Deal: 
Can they count to 6 or 7?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 The Deal
9:45
Concerned Citizen: 
No!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 Concerned Citizen
9:45
Kim: 
No, Mr. James is chair for this meeting, I believe ... hard to tell, isn't it?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 Kim
9:45
Stan Jester: 
This was mishandled much like the GAC agenda item. That's no mistake.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:45 Stan Jester
9:46
[Comment From Just JanJust Jan: ] 
I was away. Did the board vote to table Tapestry?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:46 Just Jan
9:46
[Comment From a mma mm: ] 
whatt happened
Monday September 9, 2013 9:46 a mm
9:46
Kim: 
yes, tabled.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:46 Kim
9:46
The Deal: 
That poor kid is thinking, "I am so much smarter than most of these people. Also I am never going to participate on a board."
Monday September 9, 2013 9:46 The Deal
9:47
Leo: 
Right on Deal!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:47 Leo
9:47
The Deal: 
They are getting ready to vote on using RTTT to pay for Ph.Ds.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:47 The Deal
9:47
Concerned Citizen: 
NO, NO, NO Ph.Ds.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:47 Concerned Citizen
9:48
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Nooooooooo!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:48 @votekidsmartgeo
9:48
Nancy Jester: 
I couldn't agree more, Concerned Citizen.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:48 Nancy Jester
9:48
Stan Jester: 

I apologize for being a broken record. But, I'm going to say it over and over, this money that should be spent only on teachers ... teachers ... teachers.

Monday September 9, 2013 9:48 Stan Jester
9:48
The Deal: 
NO NO NO NO NO NO to PhDs
Monday September 9, 2013 9:48 The Deal
9:49
The Deal: 
"Limited impact" to say the least!!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:49 The Deal
9:49
Concerned Citizen: 
Thank you, Stan. That's why we teachers love you and Nancy.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:49 Concerned Citizen
9:49
The Deal: 
Remind me of this gal's name again?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:49 The Deal
9:49
Dunwoody Supermom: 
Morley
Monday September 9, 2013 9:49 Dunwoody Supermom
9:49
The Deal: 
(Before Morley)
Monday September 9, 2013 9:49 The Deal
9:49
Leo: 
Any decent tuition policy operated by an employer should have these types of outs
Monday September 9, 2013 9:49 Leo
9:50
Concerned Citizen: 
Ugly, isn't she?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:50 Concerned Citizen
9:50
Dunwoody Supermom: 
Karen Carter
Monday September 9, 2013 9:50 Dunwoody Supermom
9:50
The Deal: 
Carter - yes, Morley - NO
Monday September 9, 2013 9:50 The Deal
9:50
Concerned Citizen: 
Ugly, too
Monday September 9, 2013 9:50 Concerned Citizen
9:50
The Deal: 
Morley, it is not the taxpayer's job to pay for PhDs
Monday September 9, 2013 9:50 The Deal
9:51
Kim: 
wow, will someone please chair this discussion? I'm admitting I'm tired ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:51 Kim
9:51
Dunwoody Supermom: 
So true, The Deal. This money needs to go to the TEACHERS in the CLASSROOMS!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:51 Dunwoody Supermom
9:51
@votekidsmartgeo: 
I'm aging for my degree... You should pay for yours!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:51 @votekidsmartgeo
9:51
Should the board approve the RT3 funds for the Executive Leadership Academy?
Yes, Spend the money.
 ( 0% )
No, Don't spend the money.
 ( 92% )
Undecided
 ( 8% )

Monday September 9, 2013 9:51 
9:51
The Deal: 
Paying for PhDs is SO far out of bounds of the responsibility of a school district and taxpayers. Give me a break.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:51 The Deal
9:51
@votekidsmartgeo: 
Paying....autocorrect
Monday September 9, 2013 9:51 @votekidsmartgeo
9:52
Kim: 
LOL
Monday September 9, 2013 9:52 Kim
9:52
Kim: 
Do we have the funds? haha
Monday September 9, 2013 9:52 Kim
9:52
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
PhDs - Consent Agenda # 11? Executive Leadership Academy? Pilot....? :D
Monday September 9, 2013 9:52 Guest
9:53
The Deal: 
Morley obviously has a friend in the leadership academy.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:53 The Deal
9:53
Kim: 
This should be a no-brainer while the schools are short of personnel
Monday September 9, 2013 9:53 Kim
9:53
[Comment From GuestGuest: ] 
PhDs #11 on Consent Agenda? Executive Leadership Academy?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:53 Guest
9:54
[Comment From hanna_hurleyhanna_hurley: ] 
PhDs on Consent Agenda #11? Executive Leadership Academy? Pilot of a Pilot? :D
Monday September 9, 2013 9:54 hanna_hurley
9:54
Concerned Citizen: 
So at this moment, no one agrees to spend the money on these puppets.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:54 Concerned Citizen
9:54
The Deal: 
It's so fun to spend other people's money, I'm sure.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:54 The Deal
9:54
Kim: 
The Coca-Cola Company will re-imburse me for up to $5,000 for degree studies ... that's for scale.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:54 Kim
9:55
Concerned Citizen: 
That does help, Kim, to explain the real world versus DeKalb.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:55 Concerned Citizen
9:55
Kim: 
This is absurd ...
Monday September 9, 2013 9:55 Kim
9:55
The Deal: 
I get up to $3K for job-related courses.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:55 The Deal
9:55
Kim: 
They are working on retention and employee satisfaction I get that but seriously!!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:55 Kim
9:56
Leo: 
let's punt all votes where we don't agree
Monday September 9, 2013 9:56 Leo
9:56
Kim: 
Leo, that's actually not a bad idea.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:56 Kim
9:56
Concerned Citizen: 
Retention and employee satisfaction are certainly not the issues!
Monday September 9, 2013 9:56 Concerned Citizen
9:56
Kim: 
"Do Nothing" congress comes to mind
Monday September 9, 2013 9:56 Kim
9:57
Kim: 
Did the vote to defer fail? Or the recommendation??? Goodness they need help to run a meeting
Monday September 9, 2013 9:57 Kim
9:57
The Deal: 
The vote was a successful vote to NOT fund Ph.Ds with RTTT money.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:57 The Deal
9:57
The Deal: 
The vote didn't fail (DUH).
Monday September 9, 2013 9:57 The Deal
9:57
Kim: 
Thank you.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:57 Kim
9:58
The Deal: 
Poor Melvin is getting tired.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:58 The Deal
9:58
Concerned Citizen: 
yes yes yes make my day!!!! MJ if always tired.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:58 Concerned Citizen
9:58
Kim: 
Oh boy ... McNair is dilapidated???? Really? anyone/
Monday September 9, 2013 9:58 Kim
9:58
The Deal: 
They made their bed. They agreed to do these stupid marathon days.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:58 The Deal
9:59
Leo: 
What program are we talking about?
Monday September 9, 2013 9:59 Leo
9:59
Concerned Citizen: 
Go to McNair as I have and tell me if it's dilapidated. Sorry, The Deal, I don't understand about the marathon days.
Monday September 9, 2013 9:59 Concerned Citizen
10:00
Kim: 
Are the Mustang statues still intact?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:00 Kim
10:00
Concerned Citizen: 
yes
Monday September 9, 2013 10:00 Concerned Citizen
10:00
truthseeker: 
Those would be gargoyles.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:00 truthseeker
10:00
Concerned Citizen: 
yes!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:00 Concerned Citizen
10:01
Kim: 
i'll trade today without inspection.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:01 Kim
10:01
Stan Jester: 
I think they are talking about the Pearson School Achievement Services for McNair Middle School, High School and Towers High School.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:01 Stan Jester
10:02
The Deal: 
They are admitting they didn't do anything last year.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:02 The Deal
10:02
Kim: 
These questions are beautiful
Monday September 9, 2013 10:02 Kim
10:02
Concerned Citizen: 
I've worked recently in both schools and they didn't do anything, not even the first thing!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:02 Concerned Citizen
10:02
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Thurmond just said he's been focused on region 5. I guess the other regions are just SOL.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:02 DeKalbInsideOut
10:02
hanna_hurley: 
Clarification....PhDs YES or NO?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:02 hanna_hurley
10:02
Kim: 
I can confirm the Super's claim.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:02 Kim
10:03
Concerned Citizen: 
No, PhD's! Yes, yes, yes!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:03 Concerned Citizen
10:03
The Deal: 
No to the Ph.Ds
Monday September 9, 2013 10:03 The Deal
10:03
The Deal: 
Hallelujah, a glimmer of common sense
Monday September 9, 2013 10:03 The Deal
10:03
Kim: 
No one is answering the question ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:03 Kim
10:03
Kim: 
was that Erwin's question?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:03 Kim
10:04
Leo: 
apparently thurmond and I disagree about what is the "right direction"
Monday September 9, 2013 10:04 Leo
10:04
Kim: 
"Let's not learn from history" ... that's got legs!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:04 Kim
10:05
Kim: 
BINGO!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:05 Kim
10:06
The Deal: 
Oh, lord, he's relying on Beasley.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:06 The Deal
10:07
Dunwoody Mom: 
Folks, welcome back to the Crawford Lewis era.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:07 Dunwoody Mom
10:07
The Deal: 
Man, I do not like Morley.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:07 The Deal
10:07
Kim: 
Re-purpose the funds into District 5 for something more useful
Monday September 9, 2013 10:07 Kim
10:08
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Dunwoody Mom is correct ... we are back to the Crawford Lewis era.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:08 DeKalbInsideOut
10:08
Kim: 
Wow
Monday September 9, 2013 10:08 Kim
10:08
Kim: 
Oh, we can measure costs ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:08 Kim
10:08
The Deal: 
The Lewis crowd is like those locusts. They buried underground, waited a while, and then came back out all noisy and annoying.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:08 The Deal
10:08
Leo: 
Why let something play out that won't be available next year as an option?!! This is absurd logic!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:08 Leo
10:09
Kim: 
"It's for the children"
Monday September 9, 2013 10:09 Kim
10:09
The Deal: 
Morley doesn't understand that this isn't an educational tool. It's a data-gathering tool. Data gathering for 1 year standalone is not a good use of money.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:09 The Deal
10:09
Kim: 
They are talking about two completely different things ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:09 Kim
10:10
The Deal: 
Okaaaaay, soapbox Morley.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:10 The Deal
10:10
Kim: 
Erwin is a clear thinker, it seems.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:10 Kim
10:10
DeKalbInsideOut: 
Dr. Morley bumps her gums for a living.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:10 DeKalbInsideOut
10:11
Leo: 
he just rolled his eyes at her -- caught on tape :)
Monday September 9, 2013 10:11 Leo
10:11
Kim: 
that was teh question!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:11 Kim
10:11
Kim: 
lol
Monday September 9, 2013 10:11 Kim
10:12
The Deal: 
I think they're going to use the term "bridge" as a noun, verb, and adjective from now on.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:12 The Deal
10:12
Kim: 
This should be decided by the faculty at McNair
Monday September 9, 2013 10:12 Kim
10:13
Kim: 
I would question the fidelity of the message from the faculty through the principal's office.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:13 Kim
10:14
Kim: 
Great question!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:14 Kim
10:15
Kim: 
bromides ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:15 Kim
10:16
Kim: 
he's got the power body language down.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:16 Kim
10:16
The Deal: 
Aren't the tools that identify student achievement deficits called TEACHERS? Why don't we give this money to those TEACHERS?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:16 The Deal
10:16
Kim: 
but are they "Breathing Excellence?"
Monday September 9, 2013 10:16 Kim
10:17
hanna_hurley: 
What are they discussing now?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:17 hanna_hurley
10:17
Dunwoody Mom: 
Towers has been a struggling school for several years and was ignored. They act like it was just a problem during Atkinson's reign.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:17 Dunwoody Mom
10:17
Stan Jester: 
Universal screener, graduation coaches, bridges, strategic plans ... $$$$$ ... spend money on teachers in the classroom!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:17 Stan Jester
10:17
Kim: 
hmmm ... "The troops" .... be afraid,McNair and Towers teachers, be very afraid ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:17 Kim
10:19
Kim: 
Nothing he is talking about isn't known by the faculty
Monday September 9, 2013 10:19 Kim
10:19
Leo: 
Yes, via the tool we will eliminate basic skill deficits -- we didn't teach you to read over the past 10 years of schooling but the tool will fix it
Monday September 9, 2013 10:19 Leo
10:19
Kim: 
You didn't
Monday September 9, 2013 10:19 Kim
10:20
Stan Jester: 
We've been teaching kids to read and write for thousands of years. We don't need to reinvent the wheel with all of these specialists and programs.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:20 Stan Jester
10:20
Kim: 
I would love to introduce Mr. Thurmond to Mpaza Kapembwa: http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2012/05/14/a-call-for-students-to-be-more-responsible-for-their-learning/
Monday September 9, 2013 10:20 Kim
10:21
Leo: 
yes, let's absolve all students from responsibility
Monday September 9, 2013 10:21 Leo
10:22
Kim: 
The Chair should not be able to close down discussion of Board Members have not spoken
Monday September 9, 2013 10:22 Kim
10:22
Kim: 
BINGO!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:22 Kim
10:23
Kim: 
They can still spend the dang money in District 5
Monday September 9, 2013 10:23 Kim
10:23
hanna_hurley: 
Have they discussed textbooks $$$ & 1:1 $$$?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:23 hanna_hurley
10:23
Kim: 
Oh Lord, can't derail the strategic decisions!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:23 Kim
10:23
Kim: 
Wow
Monday September 9, 2013 10:23 Kim
10:24
Kim: 
we beat that to death for no reason
Monday September 9, 2013 10:24 Kim
10:24
The Deal: 
Morcease, you are a used car salesman.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:24 The Deal
10:24
Stan Jester: 
The discussion can only be shut down if someone calls the question and a majority vote to stop discussion.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:24 Stan Jester
10:24
Kim: 
pitiful showing on that agenda item
Monday September 9, 2013 10:24 Kim
10:24
The Deal: 
He isn't even announcing the results. Great chairing.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:24 The Deal
10:25
The Deal: 
Again, you guys voted on this Monday marathon day. It was your choice. No pity.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:25 The Deal
10:26
DeKalbInsideOut: 
I wish they would. 1. Get back on the dais and use the voting machine so we can see what they are voting on and the results. 2. Separate the work and business meeting into different days.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:26 DeKalbInsideOut
10:26
Stan Jester: 
Before you leave ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:26 Stan Jester
10:26
The Deal: 
Let's definitely talk about winning football teams at failing schools. Atta boy.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:26 The Deal
10:27
Kim: 
Very nice
Monday September 9, 2013 10:27 Kim
10:27
hanna_hurley: 
Sorry, any earlier textbook $$ discussion?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:27 hanna_hurley
10:27
The Deal: 
nothing on textbooks that i heard
Monday September 9, 2013 10:27 The Deal
10:27
The Deal: 
i don't see textbooks on the agenda
Monday September 9, 2013 10:27 The Deal
10:27
The Deal: 
https://eboard.eboardsolutions.com/Meetings/ViewMeetingOrder.aspx?S=4054&MID=31836
Monday September 9, 2013 10:27 The Deal
10:28
Stan Jester: 
1. Dunwoody Chamblee Parent Council meeting Wednesday morning. Refreshments at 8:45 and meeting at 9:15. Thurmond will be there. Tell him what you think.

2. PTA meet and greet for the board. Tell them what you think of charters, the bridge initiative ... etc ...
Monday September 9, 2013 10:28 Stan Jester
10:28
hanna_hurley: 
Did parents, Sarah, bring it up during public session?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:28 hanna_hurley
10:28
Stan Jester: 
I'll publish summaries and video clips as soon as possible.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:28 Stan Jester
10:29
Stan Jester: 
Fix education in Georgia .... #SuperJester
Monday September 9, 2013 10:29 Stan Jester
10:30
The Deal: 
no textbooks mentioned at any time
Monday September 9, 2013 10:30 The Deal
10:31
Stan Jester: 
Thank you for being a part of Nancy and Friends! I'll see you online. Ask Thurmond about the textbooks at the parent council meetings.

Textbooks weren't an agenda item.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:31 Stan Jester
10:32
Stan Jester: 

Public comment was dominated by the various Druid Hills Charter Cluster groups.

Monday September 9, 2013 10:32 Stan Jester
10:33
hanna_hurley: 
Thanks! Observations - BOE has a grip on their job? Have they done their preps?
Monday September 9, 2013 10:33 hanna_hurley
10:34
The Deal: 
Thanks, Jesters!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:34 The Deal
10:34
Stan Jester: 
Let's continue this conversation at DSW
http://dekalbschoolwatch.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/tune-in-to-the-very-important-september-9-2013-board-meeting/
Monday September 9, 2013 10:34 Stan Jester
10:35
Stan Jester: 
You're welcome :-)
We'll get this done together. See you at the parent council meetings.
Monday September 9, 2013 10:35 Stan Jester
10:36
hanna_hurley: 
Thanks Super Sleuths!
Monday September 9, 2013 10:36 hanna_hurley